From Paid Mods to Creation Club (THE WHOLE THING) | Skyrim Special Edition: Paid Survival Mod

I'm going to be an extreme jackass in this video. I'm going to start off with Valve's original Paid Mods system for NOT SKYRIM and work our way to the Creation Club Microtransactions we have now; as well as opinions on the new Survival Mode that is in Beta for 800 Bethesda Bucks. We'll be discussing internal politics inside of Bethesda Softworks, as well as the Tarshana vs MxR Lawsuit, and people in the modding community such as Chesko, Shezrie, and Arthmoor. Another warning, I will be a jackass about all this, and mean too, because reality isn't nice and this is a dirty, disguising road we are walking.

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  • SMBComix

    They dropped the price to 500 credits, Zaric.

  • Kain Blooden

    I'm going to wait for the complete bundle to be less then £20. Plenty of other stuff to play till then.

  • Nokah

    I wonder, will we ever see a game with similar character customization like morrowind or oblivion coming from AAA titles? Or has the "casual gamer" bandwagon gone so far that we will never see anything comperative again.

  • V chive

    i got scared at 19:15

  • dead1yassasinn

    What happened to your mod reviews of Falskaar Wyrmstooth and Undeath?

  • Cody Polak

    what a fucking great video.

  • Franz Zapata

    It wouldn't surprise me if gaming eventually became "Software as a Service," a model many companies, like Microsoft and Adobe, have adopted for their desktop products.You won't be able to buy TES 6, you'll have to pay a monthly subscription to something like a "Bethesda Gaming Club" in order to play any of their games. Of course, they will still have microtransactions and offline play won't be even possible.I hope it doesn't come to that, but I wasn't planning on buying Bethesda's next game anyway. Judging from Skyrim and Fallout 4, it's not a game I'm going to like.

  • Hr1s7i

    What Bethsoft are doing is pretty much the reason why people pirate games. Douchebaggery never ends well for companies.

  • Angus Jameson

    I will argue that not all companies just see us as dollar signs. I think your not far off in claiming the gamer publishers (whose sole purpose is to maximize profit) aren't our friends, but I think that there are plenty of game development studios that still operate with the players/fans best interests in mind. For example take 343 Industries (the company responsible for Halo 4 & 5). The Halo community was furious about the bad story and unfamiliar artstyle that Halo 5 had, but in the aftermath of game bashing by fans, they pretty much came out and fully admitted that they messed up. Not just in a damage control PR message, but also in person conversations with community members. They fully acknowledged they upset their fans, and instead just hand-waving the criticisms and catering only to the cod style of fans that didn't care about all that stuff, they listened actively worked to right there wrongs their next game (Halo Wars 2). That game (at least in the artstyle and story department) was basically an apology letter to fans for their previous mistake. Beyond that the company frequently has community spot lights for fan projects and even fan mods for other games. Yes they put micro-transactions in both Halo 5 and Halo Wars 2, and no I can't defend that. Maybe it was Microsoft Studio's (their publisher) idea, but even if it wasn't there's too much evidence to the contrary to claim the company cares only about making a profit. 343i and many other studios like i (CD Project Red for instance)t care about pleasing fans, making good games AND making money as a byproduct of that.

  • Kenpatchi Ramasama

    Yo, can you give me a link to that pop up mod joke modI'd look but I don't know how to properly spell it because I'm sorta deaf

  • Crimson Cavalier

    I have an issue with something you said. I would like to know where you are getting your information regarding that "the average console gamer" spends money on microtransactions. That seems a really out-there statement, and I can't help but think that this is simply your PC-Master Race bias showing. Obviously I have no way of knowing, but I've a feeling that your subsequent comment, the one about whales, is far more accurate than your "the average console gamer" comment. I would be very surprised if your average console gamer spends money on microtrans.Otherwise, great video as is the norm (minus your ridiculous Nintendo video). Keep up the great work.

  • Landon Perry

    I broke my foot today, but your videos are the best kind if painkiller.

  • n1ch1jou

    Oh hell yeah i will boycott them. The update of F4 that brought creation club to the game broke my mod setup. And i had no choice but restore the mirror of the game folder from my archive and crack the game to play without updates.I had to crack the game i have already bought.This was the last time i bought a bethesda game. Next games from bethesda - i will be waiting for them on torrents.

  • Dan J

    Yep. Bethesda execs wanted to profit off paid mods and they need to encourage modders to start thinking that they should be making a living from modding. That's all well and good, but the way the 'communites' work and how the consumers of all of this have already PAID... this is a bad idea. I'm not against capitalism. I'm just against ruining the gaming industry and the modding 'communites' by monopolizing it, turning it into a marketplace-money-grab-fest.Capitalism is okay, but greed needs to be kept in check somehow. Dota2's rating system to get mods successfully accepted is a good way of regulating content and it's nice that the players get to decide what goes up. Bethesda isn't regulating any of this creation club. It's allowing itself to make its own mind up about what's fair or not, just like Zenimax is doing, by charging you $25.00 to just change ONE of your character's names in ESO!! It's great that you have 8 or so characters, but in every game ever, you can have as many characters as you want. I understand Zenimax have to maintain server, data storage etc, but if you want to change your character's names (which has always been free), then you have to pay $200.00. LOL!?Paid mods needs to be regulated.(Oh, Zaric, I might add, that if you're going to point out how a modder is making an income on Patreon, then continuing to 'name and shame', and suggesting that you stop supporting them, then you are being shady. You can be an ass hole all you want, but if you try to say how shady people are, then do it yourself.. You mentioned how dirty it was for someone to attack someone's livelihood (MxR video) .You have a patreon, don't you?)

  • sleepyinhere

    This seems like the way of any business that starts by catering to the fans because they are fans. There is the beginning which is great but some what lacking polish. Then they gain money and resources to create something amazing. A golden period if you will. A moment when fans and devs/producers/creators enjoy something truly amazing. Then the big money rolls in. Share holders, 3rd parties, etc. Then we're left reminiscing about having the good fortune to have been there when... a time before the inevitable entropy sat in.

  • Stone Bull 0728

    When will you continue your Elder Scrolls Lore series?

  • Nickname863

    40:00 I just want to see the text go from blue to red. That's all :P

  • poisonsquid37

    You should do a video on the Daedric Princes, their planes of Oblivion, their different weapons, and their histories.

  • Batshine

    Hit the nail on the head. Put out a pretty product, make it look and play well enough so they can get as much money as possible.

  • The Ideots

    At uh 15:00 What's uh, what's going on with that little dark elf harem you got going there Zaric?

  • MsGhoulz

    I have little hope for the next Elder Scrolls game now. Knowing their greed they'll have this whole new cash grab system polished for it and neutering modders. I will cherish my Skyrim porn and buggy ass Oblivion guards.

  • Alejandro Moreno

    Neat explanation. Is all about money!

  • Luciano

    follow. the. trajectory.Business practices in 2017 btw. that's it boys.

  • Mr Reign

    Easy fix for mod makes make your own fucking vids .

  • Vile Slanders

    I can't tell if the "Pay Zaric via Patreon" pitches were deliberately placed at the later intervals that involved corporate transactions to imply satirical hypocrisy; or if they are genuinely poorly timed attempts at promoting self interest, but..."Capitalist interests are not your friends," "Everyone deserves to get paid for their work," and "Pay me (Zaric) for my work" leads me to the conclusion that Zaric isn't my friend.That's not true, is it, Zaric? I'm not just a potential supplemental income provider to you, am I? Tell me what I want to hear! I'll throw money at you if you do!

  • Trevor Luinstra

    Brutal honesty at its best. Well done, sir!

  • deadpan237

    I only hope this wakes console kiddies out of their stupor and brings more people to the PC. using a console is just asking to be exploited. not that PC is immune but you have a lot more freedom. me personally I can't wait to unlock all the content they put on my computer for free like you mentioned in the other video.

  • deeliriyum

    The most sinister thing about CC is, now that it's set up and existing, it will eventually kill off free mods. It will cause the "brain drain" so the best and highest quality mods will be only available there and we will be left only with work of less capable and less talented people. Bethesda will be satisfied if this little project of theirs brings 0 money but does not cause financial loss at first. Earned money will be reinvested into funding more and more modders until the free modding scene is desolate place and all we are left with are paid mods. Then they will start raking in some phat cash.Yes, it's a slow and very gradual process but like torturer's poison it will eventually work it's way to the heart. Corporations are in it for a long haul and won't mind waiting till free mods fade out of collective memory.

  • madscientistshusta

    Im surprised bethesda hasnt hired zaric as public consultant, they could make bethesda have public love like CDRP. Btw iv never purchased anything other than official dlc on my ps4.

  • madscientistshusta

    Bethesda BucksHah! Hey but for real the only reason i cant stand the new survival mod because of the weight carry it takes away, i cant stand that if i could turn that off id do it, maybe you can but im not going to buy it to find out and i dont want to dl the free beta because i dont want it to get attention lol.

  • Frater Xavier

    So essentially yay to the stupid weapon and armor packs the nobody wants and nay to the actual good mods that alter the game.

  • WarsunGames

    Wow. I hated this video. Someone offers you money to create content an makes sure its available free elsewhere. An you call them scummy. Wow! I frigging hate you Zaric. I didn't before because you spoke the truth. But then you add in your own opinions. That is not what I signed up for. Good bye.

  • kingoftrolls

    I got banned from elianoras page for calling her a sellout for her creation club content

  • Angus Jameson

    You can have your cynical view that allows you to see how sad and disappointing every aspect of human existence is. Meanwhile I'll just be here with the optimistic view, living in the intoxicating bliss of ignorance. Love your content by the way.

  • Sir Bubley Wubley

    When i see micro transactions in full priced games i simply put on my pirate hat. YAAARG MATEY A PIRATES LIFE FOR ME!

  • svord00

    Fuck that, the fifth column must be held responsible for further development of things like this.

  • Dr4luCaN Mahs

    Well said Zaric, you are definitely right about all this and you're not a jackass you are just making a point on everything my friend that is what I like about you Keep up the good work.

  • K22 N34_Dingowarrior

    so what I gathered from this is this. We need someone to go out and start Killing Cooperate heads whom perform these shitty practices... in order to really change anything? good to know.

  • WarsunGames

    Let me just go ahead an fill you in. I requested my ideas for a new system of mods that can be added to the game. Bethesda themselves told me.We do not have a position of hiring right now an are only allowing specific designers. So i came up with an idea. I asked if there where people who would be willing to train people to make mods an who would be allowed in to make mods. Could we have professional trainers an what not.They responded with.They had an old system which was legal that could work for Bethesda but not be on the required list of services. A program a decade old that people would work for the company but would not be on the direct crew. They stated that i would one day be on this team of creators to make my own mods ( by the way i said if i could make my own mods we wouldn't be having this conversation.) An he explained how it would be done. SO! I made some suggestions to allow people to make mods but get paid. I made it clear that most mod authors leave once they made a mod. Most often to go to college or they did what they wanted an left. I suggested how about paying them mod creators a flat check for their work an Allow the release of the mods with all legal use of sound effect models an what not. Then give them the ability to come back an make more content. This would be more of a teaching class so mod makers can make mods. But this should be able to be supported as a service. So i recommended that they be PAID CONTENT. That was ME! So they can pay for this service that will provide employment for creators. They get a nice check an make a mod. Get training on how to make quest an other content. Ithen suggested The content should be made available for free if people cannot afford it. This would make it NOT paid mods. Because it will be allowed free on Nexus an if people wnat to support the program ( AKA Creation Club) They can.They agreed an That is what came of Creation Club. You do not have to buy the creations. I even made sure that the mods cannot be stolen. By making them put this on a service that cannot be copied. Thus it is always loaded on your system. This is a problem for some an it could be implemented differently. So your feelings towards this are your opinions. You want to thumbs down the creation club content despite which game is on. Got it. Your a hater. We can confirm this. It isn't that its not for everyone is that thumbs downing the game that will most likely get it Fallout 4 Taken down is the best resolve to this. Got it. Thanks!

  • Brian Gronberg

    What are your thoughts about premium currency?

  • Jake Hayes

    Hey thanks for going over the whole thing. I can't keep up with vidya like I used to and it's cool to be able understand the whole thing.

  • myles samonset

    I love the 90s cartoons at the end lol

  • Christoph Hofland

    Your not wrong about allot but you are wrong about one thing.They wont take what your worth, just what you'll give them.I dunno why anyone would bother with creation club mods if they aren't expansive nice fat overhauls and modes we don't already have. what else is the point exactly? the nexus exists and those mods are free.And most of those are stupid amounts better then what they are selling. sorry Playstation users, life kinda sucks for ya.

  • Gabriel Hage

    For these reasons I keep playing Morrowind and Daggerfall when I miss TES games...

  • Dillon Morris

    I was literally screaming "NO!" over and over again when you did the Valenwood bit near the end.

  • madscientistshusta

    Your really sold on es6 being valenwood?I think it will be highrock.

  • Mad Rumbler

    If you stop talking about it, it might go away, you dumb cunt.

  • Titus

    This guy is horribly underrated, sure he a nerd (we all play skyrim here, so what does that make us) but he a passionate nerd (that's something?)

  • Dovah Kaaz

    i agree with all that . that being saidlooks like SKSE is moving forward there is version for modders in alpha stage nowso maybe maybe we get MCM menu soon and some off the mods for Skyrim SE that need script extender

  • Pastahunter

    Cant they see their mistakes? The fools!. Leaving their supporters to drown while they sail on payment given by Bethesda. Sounds safe on paper but little to these pretentious pomps know that the big fish eat the little ones out in the water. When the contract ends, your usefulness expended and are thrown overboard with all the fruits of your toil and labor property of the architect where do you go? Who do you swim to? Are you going to bitch to? The community? When Sky UI gets updated and they don't contact you ever again because "They've got it from here."? The corporate learning curve is no joke.

  • beru56mlg

    MONEY ! (I'll still buy TES6 and F5 tough)

  • MF Shogan

    Zaric please cum on my thigh

  • kevin durant

    so sad to see the elderscrolls and fallout series becoming another franchise like COD or sports games.

  • Dichotomy

    Zhak Aron..... Jewish Bulgarian.Now I see.

  • WhiteWolf16

    I couldn't agree with you more on the point that companies aren't your friends. I have no idea why people think that a big name, for profit company miles upon miles away gives a rat's ass about your feelings. They aren't here to wipe away your tears and bring joy, they are here to make money off a media that has grown unbelievably lucrative over time. There are good companies that make quality products and try as best they can to provide for their fans while trying to maintain a profit, and bad ones that nickle and dime their customers every chance they get. We are still CUSTOMERS to both of them regardless. Wish people would understand that.

  • Zaric Zhakaron

    LEARN THE WHOLE STORY:Tarshana vs MxR Lawsuit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RFGpxVHqDoThe NEXUS PROBLEM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY2Qk9Y3Ekc-----------------------------Not for relation but for ACCURACY sake, please re-rate the NEW version of these games that now contain Microtransactions, as the release version did not:Rate Skyrim PC on Steam - http://store.steampowered.com/app/489830/Rate Skyrim PC on Metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-special-editionRate Skyrim Xbox on Metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-special-editionRate Skyrim PS4 on Metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-special-editionRate Fallout 4 PC on Steam - http://store.steampowered.com/app/377160/Rate Fallout 4 PC on Metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fallout-4Rate Fallout 4 Xbox on Metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/fallout-4Rate Fallout 4 PS4 on Metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/fallout-4------------------------------If you want to support my channel you can donate here: http://Patreon.com/zhakaronor check out my live-streams at: http://twitch.tv/zhakaron

  • MagicGamesMC

    44:55 Ive always appreciated Zaric Zhakaron's honesty... I mean, who doesnt like getting money?

  • Spas Delev

    Can you tell me how is Skyrim looking soo blurry and foggy in the distance in your video?

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